Google Fibre could come to UK

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Google Fibre could come to the UK

It looks like Google has been looking into extending its Google Fibre Project to the UK, offering astounding speeds far in excess of what BT and other providers offer in the UK at present.

Google has held talks with British company called CityFibre looking into bringing their Fibre project outside of the US. These discussions quickly ended as CityFibre became concerned that this would threaten its current partnership with BSkyB. BSkyB alongside TalkTalk are currently funding their pilot Fibre network for 200,000 homes and businesses in York. It is thought that BSkyB fear Google's sheer size, believing that they could be a major competitor/ rival in the Pay-TV.

 Google Fibre could come to UK

 

At present Google is still thought to be looking to build and improve the internet infrastructure in the UK, which is a no brainer given the UK is Google's 2nd largest market, the US being the largest.

The Telegraph's source stated that;

"Google historically have always publicly said they would never build fibre outside the US. But in the background they are talking to people here in the UK and looking at projects. - It makes sense; Britain is their biggest market outside the US"

 

Google fibre is currently available in 4 cities in the US, with plans to add 34 more cities to the list. Google's Fibre infrastructure offers speeds of 1,000 megabits per second, compared to 76 megabits from BT's network. This extra speed will allow everything from downloads to streaming faster and also make downloading your Steam library much less of a chore.

BSkyB and TalkTalk plan on getting the same speeds from their network and plan to bring fibre to two more cities if successful.

Google confirmed that they held talks with CityFibre but said they did not progress to a contract. A British Google Fiber project is not expected to be announced soon, they said. So sadly the race to cover the UK in Glorious Fibre Optic cables has not begun, but we can always dream can't we.

 

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18-07-2014, 11:15:10

WYP
Google has held talks about extending the Google Fibre project to the UK. Is faster internet coming?

http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/artic...104453776l.jpg

Read more about Google Fibre in the UK hereQuote

18-07-2014, 11:18:24

Dicehunter
M god man, You have turned into an awesome news posting machine

I'll stick to the driver and downloads side of things me thinks Quote

18-07-2014, 11:28:29

SuB
If this arrives near me, consider me already on that wagon.Quote

18-07-2014, 11:31:50

Dicehunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuB View Post
If this arrives near me, consider me already on that wagon.
It's England, Expect to pay double what the US pays.Quote

18-07-2014, 11:37:40

yassarikhan786
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
It's England, Expect to pay double what the US pays.
If we get Gigabit internet it will be worth it.Quote

18-07-2014, 12:21:03

Xrqute
The potential speeds that they are aiming for 1000mbps is nuts. But there is an internet connection that has a tested speed of 5Gbps NOW THATS INSANE!

Here in Australia (home of the slowest internet in the developed world) before the NBN (National Broadband Network- Fiber optic, Which is still being rolled out and still will be for quite a few years to come) which offers us a MAXIMUM speed of 100mbps, The fastest connection we could get was Cable (which can theoretically provide 30mbps-100mbps) and that was only in certain suburbs as the coaxial hasn't been installed everywhere but the majority of people are on ADSL2 (which can theoretically provide 24mbps)

Yay for crappy internet!!!

What governments, big business etc should be investing in is this-
http://www.t3.com/news/ericsson-test...credible-5gbpsQuote

18-07-2014, 12:59:24

Tripp
if this comes near i will be chuffedQuote

18-07-2014, 13:07:56

WillSK
If it comes this way i'll be all over that!Quote

18-07-2014, 14:42:18

hmmblah
Quote:
"We have informal conversations with other telecom companies all the time. But we've never had any serious planning discussions about bringing Google Fiber to Britain."
http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/18/g...iber-rumor-uk/Quote

18-07-2014, 14:46:08

NeverBackDown
Google Fiber internet is more of a PR thing than anything tbh. Less than 3 cities in the US have it and even then barely. Its been this way for a long time.Quote

18-07-2014, 14:49:54

hmmblah
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverBackDown View Post
Google Fiber internet is more of a PR thing than anything tbh. Less than 3 cities in the US have it and even then barely. Its been this way for a long time.
I so wish I could be part of that PR thing. I have cable at home, but I'm on a hugely oversold node with 475 subscribers where it should be a max of 300. For the most part it works fine, but some days I'll have connection issues. There are no other options in my area that come close.Quote

18-07-2014, 14:59:30

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by hmmblah View Post
I so wish I could be part of that PR thing. I have cable at home, but I'm on a hugely oversold node with 475 subscribers where it should be a max of 300. For the most part it works fine, but some days I'll have connection issues. There are no other options in my area that come close.
Well ask Google about it? They aim to improve the worst cities. Maybe they might consider yours?Quote

18-07-2014, 15:08:11

hmmblah
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverBackDown View Post
Well ask Google about it? They aim to improve the worst cities. Maybe they might consider yours?
LOL, at a population of under 5,000 they wouldn't even take a glance. As stated in the article though, one can definitely dream. Quote

19-07-2014, 05:26:17

Reloaded2
How much would this cost in the UK per month?Quote

19-07-2014, 05:52:29

JR23
1gb/s that is excessive.

If somebody said do you want 10mbps that works flawlessly for an obseen amount of money I would be all over that.

BT have totally screwed us over with their tragic cable management. Not only does it go 200m past our house to come back again on the way back it passes straight under a mains electricity cable (they used to touch) :derp:. They've managed to use over 1.2km of cable to do 650m consequently there is absolutely 0 chance of ever getting sensible speed internet. With infinity we currently get 11 down and 0.75 up. Hearing people say they want to go from 100-1000 just sounds insane when your getting an unreliable 8, i'm giving up on gaming online until I get back to University and my 60/60/1ms.

JRQuote

19-07-2014, 14:23:15

garih
if it comes to chester consider me in.

do i NEED google fibre? no.

do i want it anyway?? F***ing Hell YeahQuote

19-07-2014, 14:25:09

barnsley
Come to cambridge google! the infrastructure is old and overloaded. Also virgin media are dicks and limit download speeds.

There is a reason why the University doesn't use public infrastructure for internet...Quote

19-07-2014, 16:15:11

Damien c
Quote:
Originally Posted by barnsley View Post
Come to cambridge google! the infrastructure is old and overloaded. Also virgin media are dicks and limit download speeds.

There is a reason why the University doesn't use public infrastructure for internet...

They don't limit download speeds anymore, the only time your download speed will be reduced is if you are in a over subscribed area, and that is something that they have been working on for the past 2 years, this year and have plans to keep working on, for the foreseeable future to reduce the amount of people on each node will get rid, of all this speed reduction that happens in over subscribed areas.

As for Google Fibre, I hope they do come over here but there is only one company they can talk to, in order to actually reach a decent amount of the country and give them 1Gb speeds and that is Liberty Global aka Virgin Media, since BT, Sky, Talk Talk and Plusnet cannot give 1Gb speeds to residential customers with there current infrastructure and they are not, about to spend the billions it would cost them, to upgrade that to be able to support doing FTTH nationally.

I have been to business where they have BT Fibre and they were sold 1Gb speeds, and above but when they actually started using it and then testing it some, were only getting as much as 2Mb - 700Mb which is far from the 1Gb speed they had been sold.

I know how much Virgin is spending on building new areas and expanding to cover areas, where the network goes around some streets or neighborhoods since that is what I did 6 months ago.

I plan the installs of circuits up to 10Gb on a daily basis which includes all the civil's and cabling required, as well as the equipment required to deliver those speeds.

Believe me it is not cheap and that is why Business connections normally cost quite abit, with one circuit that I recently planned having a total install cost of £168,000 and that was for a college, and because there was a couple of circuits that they ordered for different sites Virgin covered a chunk themselves because it was, worth absorbing some of the cost due to the profit they would make from it.

I have planned a full nodal build which was for around 1000 homes, and the cost for that was in excess of £750,000 so just imagine the sort of money, BT or Google would have to spend to deliver 1Gb speeds to homes where they have no ducting for residential customers and no Fibre, as they cannot deliver those speeds over copper.

I live 0.3 miles from the nearest Virgin Media Fibre distribution point for Business customers and, to get Fibre to my house would cost around £1500, that includes the equipment and cable/splicing costs because the equipment that is installed in to houses today by Virgin Media, BT, Sky, Talk Talk and Plusnet is not capable of taking a Optical input, and if Virgin was to use the same equipment in residential houses as they do in business's then, they wouldn't have Wireless since the equipment doesn't do wireless.

Now if they did manage to get access to the Virgin Media network which no other company has managed, since AOL stopped using the network I would get it if it was available to me, but it would be a waste because there is no point at all in it.

The 1Gb speed will be for downloads and uploads within England, Scotland and Wales but as soon as you try to download something from say France or Ireland you will probably only get a max of around 250Mb, since the peering links out of the country are normally only up to 100Mb with some giving, more but not by a massive amount since the cost of bandwidth from a peering company is stupidly expensive.

Until you can get 1Gb speeds to countries where most servers are located then 1Gb is kinda pointless, unless the likes of Google, Youtube and others start having servers in the UK and while there maybe some companies that might have servers over here, most things that people would want a 1Gb connection for won't have servers over here.

I won't be upgrading from my 150Mb anytime soon Quote

19-07-2014, 17:37:55

barnsley
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien c View Post
They don't limit download speeds anymore, the only time your download speed will be reduced is if you are in a over subscribed area, and that is something that they have been working on for the past 2 years, this year and have plans to keep working on, for the foreseeable future to reduce the amount of people on each node will get rid, of all this speed reduction that happens in over subscribed areas.
Virgin media haven't done anything with the infrastructure for ages around here. The last time something major happened was when someone crashed into the box that supplies the internet to my area.
It took 6 months of calling and threatening to get just this on speedtest from 400 kb/s. Its not reflective of my internet performance at all. Throttling happens on any file over 1mb (straight down to a solid 2.1mb/s) :

http://www.speedtest.net/result/3635418684.png
My upload maxes out at 1mb, which is atrocious. It put my streaming days to an end. I'm stuck with virgin as well. No one can actually offer anything close to this in my area because they own everything.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien c View Post
I know how much Virgin is spending on building new areas and expanding to cover areas, where the network goes around some streets or neighborhoods since that is what I did 6 months ago.
If the upgrade claimed to arrive here actually happens and does some improvement I'll be very happy. Chances are that the internet will be more consistent and that'll be it. My friend gets much better performance out in one of the Villages due to BT.

I need upload and bandwidth that is acceptable. I don't trust I'll get it.Quote

19-07-2014, 18:07:36

Damien c
If you are on the old 20Mb package you should call them and see why you have not been upgraded, as I think the minimum is 50mb which should give you a 5Mb upload speed.

It would mean you have to have a superhub dependent on the modem you have got, but seeing as most of the old ones are going to stop working once the work is complete you would have to get one of the superhubs anyway.Quote

20-07-2014, 09:04:17

barnsley
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien c View Post
If you are on the old 20Mb package you should call them and see why you have not been upgraded, as I think the minimum is 50mb which should give you a 5Mb upload speed.

It would mean you have to have a superhub dependent on the modem you have got, but seeing as most of the old ones are going to stop working once the work is complete you would have to get one of the superhubs anyway.
On my second super scrubhub. Very poor wireless performance. I'll give them a call when I get the option although I won't be suprised if I have been upgraded to the 50Mb package but what I get performance wise is the '50Mb' package.

As I said earlier the infrastructure around here is so bad I don't think anything has been done to it, even despite houses being built ~5 years ago. No point in me giving them even more money for exactly the same performance.

If they do upgrade me and I get what you say then I owe you a beer though :').Quote

20-07-2014, 09:40:34

iiBetrayforAR
Oh you google, of course they take the easy route to expand to a place that already has fiber. It would be nice of they expanded more into the U.S., but it will be decades until fiber happens in suburban places like where I live, anyway.Quote

20-07-2014, 12:56:53

Wraith
Damn! You can sense the fear in all BT engineers already my exchange would have a melt down.. I'll stick with my trusty 60Mbps Plusnet Fibre thanks.Quote

20-07-2014, 13:36:28

WeLikeLead
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wraithguard View Post
Damn! You can sense the fear in all BT engineers already my exchange would have a melt down.. I'll stick with my trusty 60Mbps Plusnet Fibre thanks.
You could always try a business grade connection



Regards,

WeLikeLeadQuote

20-07-2014, 14:33:54

Wraith
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeLikeLead View Post
You could always try a business grade connection Regards,

WeLikeLead
It wouldn't make a jot of difference where we are, the last time the exchanges were upgraded, Douglas Barder still had legs and morse code was the preferred method of communication. Quote

21-07-2014, 00:19:56

Xrqute
Be happy you guys still arnt using ADSL2 like the vast majority of Australia.Quote

21-07-2014, 03:55:20

SuB
Internet connections should be a commodity in the same way as Water and electricity by now. And at prices that aren't so stupid.

I know the big exchanges etc cost money and Tier 1 bandwidth costs a fortune, but you have to stop and wonder.. why? Why should we have to pay for something that is literally so crucial to our lives now?

Because we're suckers and we keep paying for it... that's why.Quote

21-07-2014, 05:04:06

SieB
I would be strait on this if it got released in my area. I bet it will only be in major cites at first though, London will most likely be the first.Quote

21-07-2014, 05:56:45

WeLikeLead
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuB View Post
Internet connections should be a commodity in the same way as Water and electricity by now. And at prices that aren't so stupid.

I know the big exchanges etc cost money and Tier 1 bandwidth costs a fortune, but you have to stop and wonder.. why? Why should we have to pay for something that is literally so crucial to our lives now?

Because we're suckers and we keep paying for it... that's why.
Because the infrastructure cost of setting up either a retail or enterprise/carrier grade networks cost millions (for a very small one, tens to hundreds of millions for networks the size of Level 3 and AT&T etc) the hardware costs for the equipment (CISCO, Juniper, Brocade, HP etc) plus the cost of buying the fibre itself and then physically installing it into buildings and even deploying it beneath roads, fields etc to connect all the locations are sizable. Along with the need for maintaining a work force skilled enough to operate and support such a network. But mainly you can thank the tax the UK government levies on "lit" fibre.

The internet is still a luxury good, as you do not require it to survive, unlike say... water?

"Products which are not necessary but which tend to make life more pleasant for the consumer."



Regards,

WeLikeLeadQuote

21-07-2014, 07:35:19

SuB
Oh i know there are costs with setting it up, but that should be subsidised with by all the other ing tax we pay.

It should be a commodity to modern life, it pretty much is. Are you trying to tell me a modern consumer could exist without the internet?Quote

21-07-2014, 08:45:30

WeLikeLead
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuB View Post
Oh i know there are costs with setting it up, but that should be subsidised with by all the other ing tax we pay.
Nope, they simply tax us as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuB View Post
It should be a commodity to modern life, it pretty much is. Are you trying to tell me a modern consumer could exist without the internet?
First World issues eh...


Regards,

WeLikeLeadQuote

21-07-2014, 11:41:41

Gamepro105
I would pay any amount of money to get away from BT they are the WORST ISP ever I us-to be on a happy 18Mbps now i'm on 2Mbps paying the same amount GO BT!
EDIT: just so you know i'm in a rural area bt have a monopoly on that.Quote

21-07-2014, 13:32:32

SieB
Looks like it isn't happening
At least not anytime soon.

Quote:
Claims that advertising giant Google is looking to bring its ultra-fast Google Fibre internet service provider (ISP) business to the UK have been scotched, with the company stating outright it has no serious planning discussions in place.
source - Bit-TechQuote

21-07-2014, 13:40:49

Cru
Quote:
Originally Posted by SieB View Post
Looks like it isn't happening
At least not anytime soon.



source - Bit-Tech
yeah no .. there's a post on the first page about this. love how everyone ignored thatQuote

21-07-2014, 13:50:56

SieB
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cru View Post
yeah no .. there's a post on the first page about this. love how everyone ignored that
For at start I didn't ignore it, I missed it, sue me. If I had saw it I wouldn't of made my post above. And that news article has been posted on several sites today, so I figured it was new news.Quote

21-07-2014, 16:20:28

Xrqute
I did a speed test this morning on my cable @5am so there would bof been min load. Got like 21Mbps down and like 1.2Mbps up.

Rubbish.Quote

21-07-2014, 16:22:56

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xrqute View Post
I did a speed test this morning on my cable @5am so there would bof been min load. Got like 21Mbps down and like 1.2Mbps up.

Rubbish.
That's not that bad. The up is a little on the downside but where i live thats quite high.Quote

21-07-2014, 18:54:46

MadShadow
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverBackDown View Post
That's not that bad. The up is a little on the downside but where i live thats quite high.
That must really suck. I also used to have really slow internet, but now I have 10 up and 10 down, so I'm reasonably pleased with that.Quote

21-07-2014, 19:07:46

YbrFinX
Well, I live nowhere near UK or US but I still doubt the privacy side of this Google Fibre. You see, they have their own browser that sends all page visits to Google AFAIK. They also have the world's biggest search engine that keeps record of every search done with your IP. Also do they have Chromebooks (my gosh those are going to violate your privacy), not to mention this Google Fibre... Just think about it, your whole network connection in the hands of Google? I'm totally happy with my cable connection though, no fibre required Quote

22-07-2014, 00:17:41

Xrqute
Quote:
Originally Posted by YbrFinX View Post
Well, I live nowhere near UK or US but I still doubt the privacy side of this Google Fibre. You see, they have their own browser that sends all page visits to Google AFAIK. They also have the world's biggest search engine that keeps record of every search done with your IP. Also do they have Chromebooks (my gosh those are going to violate your privacy), not to mention this Google Fibre... Just think about it, your whole network connection in the hands of Google? I'm totally happy with my cable connection though, no fibre required
And then there's my Galaxy S 5 that I'm posting off right now oh and my Galaxy Tab lol.

Edit: oh and I forgot about my Gmail.....Google pretty much owns me already whats an extra net connection going to get them.... nothing, they've already got it all if they really wanted.

Edit Edit:
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverBackDown View Post
That's not that bad. The up is a little on the downside but where i live thats quite high.
Just to clarify. I men't Megabits not Megabytes per second. I always confuse abbreviations.Quote

23-07-2014, 02:20:20

NeverBackDown
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xrqute View Post
Just to clarify. I men't Megabits not Megabytes per second. I always confuse abbreviations.
Oh in that case its terrible lol. I get about 22mb/s down and 5mb/s up. Its not bad but not great compared to a lot of the other big cities around me. Most of them use Fiber Optics.Quote

23-07-2014, 04:43:52

Greenback
I'm on virgins minimum package and with the latest upgrade I get

http://www.speedtest.net/result/3642463970.png

Which for me is fine I also found the new superhub 2 I have has better Wi-FiQuote

23-07-2014, 05:24:16

Damien c
I found out last night, that the levels have been changed in my area and now the modems need more signal, got my old meter out and checked to see what I was getting and what needed to be adjusted.

After all that I am now getting a solid 126Mb down and 12.6 up, and next month that will change a my area is getting the 152Mb down upgrade.Quote
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