Asus ROG Crosshair IV Extreme - Hands on Preview

Introduction

Introduction



We at Overclock3D are always keen to examine the flagship products of any product line-up. The vast majority of readers will not necessarily be able to afford nor justify these exclusive creations, but that does not undermine their importance. On the contrary, this is where manufacturers have the opportunity to show us their latest innovations - and of course, without innovation we may as well throw the definition of "progression" out of the window.

This is why we always look forward to Asus’ “Republic of Gamers” range of equipment. In April, we assessed the surprisingly affordable Crosshair IV Formula motherboard. Aside its class leading overclocking ability, it also brought many features to the table such as remote overclocking and automated overclocking solutions. We regarded the new 890FX motherboard very highly and yet there was no denying that it was a comparatively restrained product when compared to other ROG offerings. Asus were excused for this, but why? Simple. The Crosshair IV Formula was only the baby – and nearly five months later, here comes the big daddy of all AMD motherboards. Ladies and gentlemen, we are proud to present to you the Crosshair IV Extreme.

There is both good and bad news to this story; like the optimist that I am, I will begin with the good. Unlike some of the previews that you may have seen already, we have not reused media from elsewhere. That's right, we have not grabbed leaked photographs or rehashed other organisations' articles. Of course this means that we actually have our very own Crosshair IV Extreme in our labs... but more to the point, we are in possession of Crosshair IV Extreme #001!

Unfortunately a fly has nose dived into our ointment; Asus have our lips stapled together with a NDA gun! As such, we cannot offer any indication of the board’s performance, its price or for that matter any major specifics.

What we will do however is offer you all a photo shoot and a brief overview of the board’s features!

Please turn over for more information…

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Most Recent Comments

09-09-2010, 05:39:30

tinytomlogan
The king of Socket AM3 motherboards has arrived in our labs...fancy a sneak peak?

Continue ReadingQuote

09-09-2010, 05:54:33

Mr. Strawberry
yes please Quote

09-09-2010, 06:07:31

wraithien
Its a shame they didn't stick with original boards heatsink design it looked much better and more cohesive than this one does. None the less I am very interested to see how Hydra performs.Quote

09-09-2010, 06:09:05

alienware
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Strawberry View Post

yes please


Tom is a dirty tease. You need to get used to it Quote

09-09-2010, 08:21:18

AMDFTW
oooooooo this looks good lets hope the lucid works wellQuote

09-09-2010, 08:59:34

silenthill
I just wish there was a more powerful CUP from AMD to go with this master piece from ASUS, I really think it’s time AMD came up with something that can compete with core I7 because it’s been two years now and we still have the same old Phenom which can’t even compete with some core I5 CPU’s within the same class.

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09-09-2010, 09:07:08

AMD_PBz
It's about bloody time!

I'm itching to ditch this 890gx extreme3 into a dedicated folding machineQuote

09-09-2010, 14:19:39

walkingasd
anyone know the performance difference between this and the standard?

i know that for the extreme editions they pump up the output generally but "is it worth the extra?"Quote

09-09-2010, 20:15:28

Delusion77
DAYUM. I see they deviated from the Crosshair IV Formula/ Rampage III Heatsink design a bit. But this definitely look like a beast.Quote

10-09-2010, 08:07:17

alienware
That thing is so beautiful I could cry.

A violent work of art Quote

11-09-2010, 18:10:12

steve30x
If what tom says here > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODxo0ZxIJk is true about this motherboard and new CPU I will be going with amd with my next upgrade. I was going to go with a core I5 760 but if its true I will be buying this motherboard and the new CPU. I hope the review will show benchmarks of mixed GPU's also. I am curious to see how mixed GPU's work on this board cause I would like to use my GTX280 with a newer Fermi GPU.Quote

12-09-2010, 09:31:33

alienware
Well the only use your 280 will serve is either as a dedi Physx card or to plug more monitors into. You can't SLI two different GPU models, or, even the same family with Nvidia. You can on ATI, example - a 4870 and 4850, or a 5870 and 5850 etc. How well that works though? no idea, never seen any one try

Also note that the 280 is one hot card. Adding it into a case with a Fermi (depending on the Fermi) is going to turn your PC into a storage heater.

Recently for a laff I put a pair of 3870x2 and a 8800u with two PSUs in the same case. Within ten minutes I was drenched with sweat and my cables had all become quite soft and maliable

It was simply far too much heat. I don't know if this board supports SLI, but you're better off with say a 5870 and pair it up with the 280GTX for some hybrid Physx porn Quote

12-09-2010, 10:09:21

tinytomlogan
Im not going to tell you exactly what we will be testing with cos all the other sites will try and copy, but of course Ill be using mixxed cards

Ill make sure you all get your hardware fix on this one

The vid above is obv. correct. The 1090T is a viable alternative to an i7 930, if you want more performace than that then it has to be Intel.Quote

12-09-2010, 10:09:26

Paulie
Steve is reffering to the Hydra chip on the extreme version which allows you to mix any two graphics card from either manufacturer and any generation of card, so a 280 would sli with a 480 or a 5870, how well is what we're all eager to find outQuote

12-09-2010, 10:37:25

Notleh
Hydra could be epic for gamers. Will be interesting to see how the test results pan out.Quote

13-09-2010, 06:30:16

steve30x
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienALX View Post

Well the only use your 280 will serve is either as a dedi Physx card or to plug more monitors into. You can't SLI two different GPU models, or, even the same family with Nvidia. You can on ATI, example - a 4870 and 4850, or a 5870 and 5850 etc. How well that works though? no idea, never seen any one try

Also note that the 280 is one hot card. Adding it into a case with a Fermi (depending on the Fermi) is going to turn your PC into a storage heater.

Recently for a laff I put a pair of 3870x2 and a 8800u with two PSUs in the same case. Within ten minutes I was drenched with sweat and my cables had all become quite soft and maliable

It was simply far too much heat. I don't know if this board supports SLI, but you're better off with say a 5870 and pair it up with the 280GTX for some hybrid Physx porn
Do you have any Idea how the Hydra chip works? You can mix an Nvidia card with an ATI card to improve performance or you can SLI a GTX280 with a GTX480 just like ATI you can XFire a HD5850 with a HD5870. This motherboard has a Hydra chip which will allow this.

Also I shouldnt have any heat issues because I took out all PCI blanking plates from my case (to leave more air into my case) , blocked the top ventillation on my case and have 3 high CFM fans in the roof of the case. My case is no longer like an oven now. I will be buying a 140MM Notua 67CFM fan for the bottom of my case which will also help with cooling.

PS. Tom could you please use a GTX280 if possible for your testing also. I am not asking for an answer here , but making a suggestion.Quote

13-09-2010, 06:37:40

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve30x View Post

PS. Tom could you please use a GTX280 if possible for your testing also. I am not asking for an answer here , but making a suggestion.
Friad not on that one, we dont have one and no one has any to blag where its getting a bit old now dude sorry.Quote

13-09-2010, 06:54:41

steve30x
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post

Friad not on that one, we dont have one and no one has any to blag where its getting a bit old now dude sorry.
No problem. It would be nice to see what it would perform like paired with a newer card. I would offer you a loan of my own GPU but I dont have a spare GPU. My spare GPU blew up a few months ago so I am working on getting a new motherboard , Ram , CPU and 2x GTX 470.Quote

14-09-2010, 11:09:16

Delusion77
shame you cant use an older card, as i feel thats where most of the interest is. ppl can keep their old cards and upgrade to a newer tech at the same time. I dont think there are that many ppl thinking about buying a gtx480 and 5970 at the same timeQuote

14-09-2010, 11:30:33

alienware
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve30x View Post

Do you have any Idea how the Hydra chip works? You can mix an Nvidia card with an ATI card to improve performance or you can SLI a GTX280 with a GTX480 just like ATI you can XFire a HD5850 with a HD5870. This motherboard has a Hydra chip which will allow this.
Yes I know what it is. It intercepts the direct x and opengl instructions splitting them between the cards. So sort of a hybrid slifire or crossli. Sadly it is also driver based, and sh*t.

Quote:
Originally Posted by A recent review and test View Post
when testing the MSI Big Bang Fusion which features Hydra 200, gave it very poor ratings citing the following: Poor drivers, poor game support, small if any performance gain over a single video card, graphical artifacts, unstable gameplay and a high price tag
So, good luck with it and let us know how it goes. Hopefully it's been improved from early reports

Quote:
Originally Posted by steve30x View Post
Also I shouldnt have any heat issues because I took out all PCI blanking plates from my case (to leave more air into my case) , blocked the top ventillation on my case and have 3 high CFM fans in the roof of the case. My case is no longer like an oven now. I will be buying a 140MM Notua 67CFM fan for the bottom of my case which will also help with cooling.

PS. Tom could you please use a GTX280 if possible for your testing also. I am not asking for an answer here , but making a suggestion.
Well hopefully things will stay cool. MSI afterburner should help you with that, but cool comes at a cost (noise). Mind you, I would prefer a load of noise than a dead card.

Edit. Ahhhh.

I wondered why you brought up the Hydra chip. When I posted the link was busted (hence my tease post) and I didn't realise it was on this board. So I figured this board would just be an uprated more singing and dancing CHIV. I didn't know it had the Hydra on. Still, now it has a huge name behind it it may get better Quote

14-09-2010, 12:14:33

kishona
I was waiting out for one of these but impatience got the better of me so I went with the Crosshair iv instead. Based on the research I've done, the main difference between the two should be the RC Bluetooth and the Lucid chip included in the Extreme. But then again I could be wrong. Only time/tinytomlogan will tell............... Quote

17-09-2010, 14:49:20

AMD_PBz
3 More days I'can't wait Quote

17-09-2010, 15:10:49

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by AMD_PBz View Post

3 More days I'can't wait
30th is the NDA for this mateyQuote

17-09-2010, 15:17:44

AMD_PBz
I knew it was too good to be true Tom

I shoulda figured if it didn't come from you it wasn't accurate.Quote

17-09-2010, 15:47:32

tinytomlogan
21st is the NDA for the new AMD CPU's fella.Quote

17-09-2010, 15:55:45

AMDFTW
ther bulldozer?Quote

17-09-2010, 16:26:22

alienware
NDA - Non disclosure agreement. haha.

I can tell you, but I'll have to kill you Quote

17-09-2010, 17:00:51

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by AMDFTW View Post

ther bulldozer?
Dont be daft thats ages off mate.Quote

17-09-2010, 17:08:05

alienware
I thought Fuzion was coming first. Basically a Phenom with some GPU love onboard? Akin to the I3 etc.

Ah well, all shall be revealed soon no doubt Quote

17-09-2010, 17:12:37

tinytomlogan
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienALX View Post

I thought Fuzion was coming first. Basically a Phenom with some GPU love onboard? Akin to the I3 etc.

Ah well, all shall be revealed soon no doubt
Nope thats bulldozer. Bulldozer and sandybridge are both integrated GPU cpu's fella.Quote

17-09-2010, 17:17:20

alienware
Hmm. They must have changed that then. I read on their site ages ago that they were doing something called Fuzion. Oddly though they seem to have used the name for their lock down software (and the logo). It's some mad app that kills every non critical process before you start a game. AV, wireless LAN, firewalls.. Anything that runs in the background and uses resources. It even disables Aero and all that... One click off, one click all back on. Wicked it is Quote

17-09-2010, 18:30:02

AMDFTW
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytomlogan View Post

Dont be daft thats ages off mate.
ahhh okydoky,not to bad thenQuote

17-09-2010, 19:04:01

tinytomlogan
fuzion is the group of amd products from chipset to cpu to gpu dude.Quote

17-09-2010, 19:23:52

alienware
Ohhh I see.. Got it now.. That's probably where I got mixed up.Quote

17-09-2010, 21:21:37

Diablo
Is the new processor going to be compatible with AM3 boards? My crosshair IV is dying to have something a bit better than the X3 in it.Quote

18-09-2010, 04:25:03

Mul.
I could be going mad (quite likely) but it's my understanding that there are two architectures inbound; Fusion and Bulldozer

Fusion refers to the processors with fully integrated GPU and the new APU unit that makes it all happen - this includes Llano core (for desktops, almost an Athlon II with iGPU), Bobcat and Zacate (Single and Dual Core Atom competitors).

Bulldozer involves a different architecture without iGPU and will be the basis of 4/8 core desktops (known thus far as Zambezi core) and 16 core servers.Quote

18-09-2010, 08:12:46

alienware
I wasn't dreaming and you're not going mad Mul mate.

http://sites.amd.com/us/fusion/APU/Pages/fusion.aspxQuote

18-09-2010, 08:51:32

AMDFTW
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo View Post

Is the new processor going to be compatible with AM3 boards? My crosshair IV is dying to have something a bit better than the X3 in it.
i think the new procs use socket AM3+Quote

18-09-2010, 10:02:19

Diablo
Have to see whether that's backward compatible, either way I look forward to AMD being more competative at the top end, this intel monopoly isn't great.Quote

18-09-2010, 10:39:18

AMDFTW
they might be the same as AM2 and AM2+,you just might lose some performanceQuote
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