Broadwell and Skylake to launch at the same time?

Broadwell and Skylake to Coexist?

Broadwell and Skylake to Coexist?

Broadwell and Skylake to Coexist on the Market?

 

Now with the Haswell-E prices confirmed, we have a look further into Intel's future lineup. Now we have a lot more information on Broadwell, Skylake and Intel's 100 series motherboards.

We will start off with Intel's Latest Roadmap which shows Broadwell and Skylake-S releasing at the same time. From all information we can find we know that Intel will be releasing Broadwell-K series CPU at the same time as Skylake-K, or non-overclocking series Processors.

Broadwell and Skylake to Coexist?  

 

When these CPUs will come to market is unclear, all we know is that they will come sometime in Q2. Both these CPUs will use Intel's 14nm process and Skylake will use Intel's 100 seriews chipsets with Broadwell using Intel's existing 9-series chipset.

Skylake will have the ability to use DDR4 memory, but also use older DDR3 memory. This will make the motherboard manufacturers a little nervous as they will have make motherboards that support each standard. The price will likely remain high until there is higher demand/production so DDR4 support may not be the selling point it sounds like.

Broadwell and Skylake to Coexist?  

 

One key change Skylake will bring is removing the FIVR (Full Integrated Voltage Regulator) off the CPU die and back onto the motherboard, which will decrease the CPU temperatures a bit. As said previously Skylake will launch without a K-series product, so it can be easily said that it is intended for business users and other non-overclockers.

 Broadwell and Skylake to Coexist?  

 

Above we can also see the SATA and PCI configurations of the upcoming 100-series linup, notice that even the budget h150 chipset can have advanced features like SATA express and a reasonable amount of USB 3.0 ports. 

 

Intel 100-series motherboard?

Apart from the changes in the FIVR, Intel is also changing their naming scheme for their motherboards. Notice how we are calling it the 100-sereis and not the 10-series.

In essence all that changes really is that the 7 in what would have been z107 turns into 70, creating a Z170 motherboard. A simple and easy to remember change. You can see all the name changes below. 

Broadwell and Skylake to Coexist?  

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17-07-2014, 06:55:54

YouWhat
Here is the upcoming roadmap for Intel's consumer line of chips, featuring Broadwell, and Skylake-S for the next year, (2015).

This was found on a Chineese version of the VR-Zone website, and here is what they have to say about the above road ahead for us all.

Quote:
Broadwell and Skylake-S coexist, Intel desktop processors in the second quarter 2015 update

After the September launch of Haswell-E processor confirmed, and now many people should be concerned about the Intel 2015 processor-year table layout.

Roadmap through the latest display, Intel in 2015 will also allow two 14nm process products to replace the existing Haswell Refresh processor.

http://i.imgur.com/jGIHVtw.png

The figure can be found to, Intel in 2015, positioning is quite clear, Broadwell and two Skylake-S processor 14nm process will be launched in the second quarter, which Skylake-S will match Intel's latest 100 series chips. Which can be found to, Skylake-S will follow the pace of Haswell-E, and start adding support for DDR4 memory, but will support DDR3 memory, which is part of how to design, make the motherboard makers seem quite troubled.

Mainly because of DDR4 memory embodied stage will remain at the high price of the status quo, but does not seem to be using DDR4 lose some marketing selling point.

http://i.imgur.com/4PdiP8j.jpg

Skylake-S lock is general and business users, at this stage the products are frequency-locked version; Broadwell is locked players, so the launch of the product is not locked version to replace the present stage of Devil's Canyon processor.

Broadwell processors will continue to use FIVR (Full Integrated Voltage Regulator) built-in voltage regulator modules in the CPU design, and similar designs are discarded in the Skylake platform, but for now, not locked in Broadwell Series Haswell Refresh processor stage with the same design is maintained at FIVR. Phase of World War II motherboard factory, perhaps they branch an extension of.

On the other hand, 15W, and 28W of Broadwell processors will be postponed to the first quarter of 2015 will be released in the market.
So the road for the next year will be busy for intel and all the hardware manufacturers making and pushing out their new designs, so expect to see some soon.

Source:- chinese.VR-Zone.com

Please note the quote is a google translation of the page.

Edit: by WYP

Read the FP article about Broadwell and Skylake's Coexistence on the market here.Quote

17-07-2014, 07:39:44

Dicehunter
So now we have to wait until the 2nd half of 2015 for Broadwell ? That sucks Quote

17-07-2014, 08:25:33

WYP
It is a shame we will have to wait so long for broadwell.

it is also very strange to see Broadwell and Skylake at the same time. I need to read more into this and find out why.Quote

17-07-2014, 08:37:43

Agost
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watsyerproblem View Post
It is a shame we will have to wait so long for broadwell.

it is also very strange to see Broadwell and Skylake at the same time. I need to read more into this and find out why.
There will be Broadwell K and Skylake S

So no K skylake CPUs until the end of 2015 or maybe first half 2016


Because...

http://i.imgur.com/Nm1I6ZE.jpgQuote

17-07-2014, 08:54:23

WYP
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agost View Post
There will be Broadwell K and Skylake S

So no K skylake CPUs until the end of 2015 or maybe first half 2016


Because...
Pretty much, It seems it got to the stage for intel that it was better to almost skip Broadwell rather than release it fully. Especially because Intel just made the Z97 series of motherboards and they require a properly new CPU to use it.

Only releasing the K series to regain some of it's cost back. Then it leaves Skylake-K more time to improve yields etc and gives Intel another chance to grab cash from enthusiasts.

I'll write up a main page article on this later, combined with a few more 100 series motherboard details from here.

I hope there are no hard feeling YouWhat, but we simply can't share copy/paste articles on FB.Quote

17-07-2014, 09:38:31

Wraith
The point is the architecture is ready and the tapeouts are ready the prototypes are working, we are just waiting for the silicon fabs to reach mass manufacture levels (Q4)... 20nm, 16nm & 14nm are the only thing slowing this down.Quote

17-07-2014, 10:20:29

WYP
Of made a FP article on this, the forum thread is marked as this one so the discussion shall continue here.

I have also added a little information on the Intel 100-series motherboards coming for Skylake. Link is in the OPQuote

17-07-2014, 13:20:34

Zoot
If the two are coming at the same time, don't be expecting earth shattering performance increases from either.

Particularly given the way they've Broadwell-K pitched as the enthusiast part (given that's unlocked unliked Skylake-S), certainly makes the whole thing quite underwhelming!

Two discrete chips for the PCH is kind of funny too, given it's been one for quite some time with Z87, Z97 etc.Quote

17-07-2014, 13:55:13

YouWhat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watsyerproblem View Post
I hope there are no hard feeling YouWhat, but we simply can't share copy/paste articles on FB.
None taken, was in bit too much of rush to get out door earlier, so all is well with me about this. Quote

17-07-2014, 14:58:17

WYP
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Originally Posted by YouWhat View Post
None taken, was in bit too much of rush to get out door earlier, so all is well with me about this.
That's good to hear. I really appreciate everyone who posts on the news forums.

Together we are keeping each other well informed and up to date, which I think is very healthy for the forums.

Keep up the good work fellow OC3DersQuote

17-07-2014, 15:03:24

Agost
Seriously speaking...

Do you guys think that 5820K+X99 ( maybe with added usb 3.1 and sata express/ m.2 slot ) could be a long lasting setup? I have my 920 since early 2010 and I'm planning to upgrade, probably next year, to X99.

Broadwell K make little sense to me ( no upgrades, last DDR3 cpus ) and looks like Skylake K is coming in 2016 AND 4 core only.

I'd like to get a 4k monitor too, if prices go down enoughQuote

17-07-2014, 20:06:37

WYP
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agost View Post
Seriously speaking...

Do you guys think that 5820K+X99 ( maybe with added usb 3.1 and sata express/ m.2 slot ) could be a long lasting setup? I have my 920 since early 2010 and I'm planning to upgrade, probably next year, to X99.

Broadwell K make little sense to me ( no upgrades, last DDR3 cpus ) and looks like Skylake K is coming in 2016 AND 4 core only.

I'd like to get a 4k monitor too, if prices go down enough
If it can overclock well it will be an epic chip IMHO, with DX12, Mantle etc reducing CPU strain and more games utilizing more and more threads to should be a great CPU for a long time to come.

Wait for release and reviews, I bet reviewers will be falling over themselves trying to get this chip. The 8 Core is interesting but the 5820 has a great price for what it seems to deliver.

Unless Intel has lowered overclocking potential of this chip in some way it should be a gem of a chip.Quote

17-07-2014, 20:25:58

Antony1995
Is it right that Broadwell will use the 1150 socket and current chipset? or is it to early to say yet?
I seem to remember reading something about it somewhere.Quote

17-07-2014, 21:32:06

Dicehunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antony1995 View Post
Is it right that Broadwell will use the 1150 socket and current chipset? or is it to early to say yet?
I seem to remember reading something about it somewhere.
Yes Broadwell will use the Z97 *1150* chipset were as The successor to Broadwell i.e Skylake will use Z170Quote

17-07-2014, 21:39:54

Agost
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watsyerproblem View Post
If it can overclock well it will be an epic chip IMHO, with DX12, Mantle etc reducing CPU strain and more games utilizing more and more threads to should be a great CPU for a long time to come.

Wait for release and reviews, I bet reviewers will be falling over themselves trying to get this chip. The 8 Core is interesting but the 5820 has a great price for what it seems to deliver.

Unless Intel has lowered overclocking potential of this chip in some way it should be a gem of a chip.
Well my doubts were more focused on the platform itself rather than on the cpu... my 920 is still going strong but SATA2 and USB2 makes me feel it's a bit obsolete

I also hope they won't be power hungry like SB-E D:
X99 boards could hopefully have lower idle power consumption


Quote:
Originally Posted by Antony1995 View Post
Is it right that Broadwell will use the 1150 socket and current chipset? or is it to early to say yet?
I seem to remember reading something about it somewhere.
9 series mainstream chipsets are compatible with haswell, haswell refresh and broadwell

However don't expect anything special by broadwell CPUsQuote

17-07-2014, 21:55:13

Antony1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Yes Broadwell will use the Z97 *1150* chipset were as The successor to Broadwell i.e Skylake will use Z170
Ah I see.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agost View Post

9 series mainstream chipsets are compatible with haswell, haswell refresh and broadwell

However don't expect anything special by broadwell CPUs
Is Broadwell not going to be much of a step up in performance then?Quote

17-07-2014, 23:28:19

Agost
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antony1995 View Post

Is Broadwell not going to be much of a step up in performance then?
Broadwell is practically Haswell shrunk to 14nm

Think about Ivy vs Sandy bridge: same thingQuote

18-07-2014, 00:30:56

Xrqute
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agost View Post
There will be Broadwell K and Skylake S

So no K skylake CPUs until the end of 2015 or maybe first half 2016


Because...

http://i.imgur.com/Nm1I6ZE.jpg
All this talk of S's and K's, but I must say E is the only letter for me.

I know its along time away but I think Skylake-E will be the chip that puts my 3930k (this chip overclocks like a champ) grass.

I don't think Haswell-E is worth the Cost:Performance Gain. And the more I read Broadwell just seems like a gap fill.

Edit: But also with this teaser by AMD about "Core" if the can put out a truly competitive product I'd consider giving them another run. The first PC I built myself was an Amd athlon XP 2100 back when we still used AGP for graphics haha oh to be 14 again.Quote

18-07-2014, 00:52:27

Agost
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xrqute View Post
All this talk of S's and K's, but I must say E is the only letter for me.

I know its along time away but I think Skylake-E will be the chip that puts my 3930k (this chip overclocks like a champ) grass.

I don't think Haswell-E is worth the Cost:Performance Gain. And the more I read Broadwell just seems like a gap fill.
The 5820K is a good step forward for 6 cores at a more accessible price

Skylake-E ? Not before 2H 2016.Quote
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