Microsoft is pulling the plug on Windows 7?

Mainstream Windows 7 support will end in 6 months

Microsoft is pulling the plug on Windows 7

Mainstream Windows 7 support is ending soon.

Every Windows product has lifecycle, I'm sure everybody remembers when Windows XP's ended earlier this year, now Microsoft has dated the end of the lifecycles of Windows Vista to even Windows 8.

The most Noteworthy of the Operating systems listed is undoubtedly Windows 7, which is acclaimed as being one of Microsoft's best operating Systems to date. Many enthusiasts even install Windows 7 onto systems with Windows 8 or 8.1 already installed.

When the time comes Microsoft pulls support for each OS, no longer providing automatic updates, fixes and even online technical support. Without this support you will no longer receive vital security updates to help protect your PC from harmful viruses, malware and spyware, so it is in your best interest to use an OS which is receiving this support.

 

Microsoft is pulling the plug on Windows 7

 

So what about Windows 7?

Windows 7 will be losing its mainstream support on January 13th 2015, which is just over 6 months away, from then it will no longer be receiving updated features or performance improvements unless you are covered by extended support, which only applies to business users. Note that security patches will still remain, so there is no need to bin your Windows 7 Licences just yet, but no further improvements will be made to the OS. Please remember to update your Windows 7 OS to the latest service pack to receive security updates from this date. 

Extended support for Windows 7 will officially end on January 14th 2020, so Microsoft have 5 years to make an OS to please the current Windows 7 fanbase. This date will force a lot of consumers to change OS, which to most people means they will need a new PC. For Business users this is more startling as the many companies who made a costly move from Windows XP to 7 in the past few months/years will only be able to use their expensive new systems safely for another 5 years, given that many companies chose to avoid the newer but less user friendly Windows 8 OS.

Hopefully within the next few years Microsoft will release Windows 9 and it will be to Windows 8 what Windows 7 was to Vista, so that Windows 7 lovers will have a worthy OS upgrade path when the time comes.

To discuss Microsoft's support of Windows 7 further please go to the OC3D Forums. 

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08-07-2014, 18:50:33

WYP
Microsoft has dated when Windows 7 support will end, with mainstream support ending in just over 6 months.

http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/artic...181446836l.jpg

Read more hereQuote

08-07-2014, 19:10:37

SeekaX
Oh well, who cares about performance updates, security updates are enough for me. 5 more years till hopefully linux has proper game support.Quote

08-07-2014, 19:49:59

Wraith
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
Oh well, who cares about performance updates, security updates are enough for me. 5 more years till hopefully linux has proper game support.
SeekaX, Game support is the only thing holding me back with Linux too, with Steam getting better it's only a matter of time.Quote

08-07-2014, 19:52:32

WYP
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
Oh well, who cares about performance updates, security updates are enough for me. 5 more years till hopefully linux has proper game support.
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Originally Posted by Wraithguard View Post
SeekaX, Game support is the only thing holding me back with Linux too, with Steam getting better it's only a matter of time.
You guys have a point, with steam OS and even word of AMD's mantle coming to Linux the home of PC gaming may no longer be Windows in 2020.Quote

08-07-2014, 19:56:34

Wraith
Yeah and just think of all that extra power we'll have not having a hungry OS chugging along in the background..Quote

08-07-2014, 20:15:49

mojothejester
Win 7 is definitely my favourite so far, not tried 8 yet though. Will wait til I can afford to build a new PC before I go for 8, or 9 if it's out by thenQuote

08-07-2014, 20:22:16

RickPlaysWarr
I won't even consider windows 8. We use windows 7 at work and myself and the other member of the tech team both loath windows 8. I will stick with windows 7 to game for now and my MacBook/Hackintosh machines at home.

Had a brief flirt with Linux a few years back but it did not stick. Was doing too much development at work and had to use Visual Studio.net and SQL server at that time.

Maybe I should give it a go again.

--Rick--Quote

08-07-2014, 21:43:00

Dark NighT
I dont think windows 7 needs performance improvements anyway, as long as security stay's up its fine for me.

Yes linux gaming might take a turn for the better but i still have a load of games that will never run on that because of directx or not being available for linux, so i need windows.Quote

09-07-2014, 05:04:11

barnsley
Oh well if this is indeed true (sorry, I'm still thinking they'll release a new service pack) Windows 8 is better on a performance level and its easy to modify to make it just like Windows 7. Its getting there in terms of supporting older programs anyway.

It better only be for windows 7 home premium though otherwise they'll have some very cross companies/Governments...Quote

09-07-2014, 05:09:28

WYP
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Originally Posted by barnsley View Post
Oh well if this is indeed true (sorry, I'm still thinking they'll release a new service pack) Windows 8 is better on a performance level and its easy to modify to make it just like Windows 7. Its getting there in terms of supporting older programs anyway.

It better only be for windows 7 home premium though otherwise they'll have some very cross companies/Governments...
Yeah, I'm upgrading my aunts PC to Windows 7 from XP this weekend. But if she can still get 5 years out of it she will be happy, the laptop is pretty old.Quote

09-07-2014, 05:18:02

JR23
On the plus side average boot times will rocket if there are less updates.

Will 9 be out before 7 is dropped, i'm not running 8 on my rig and that is a fact.

JRQuote

09-07-2014, 05:26:38

RizeAllard
Theres many pepople outhere who uses windows xp, it will not be a problem for the most of the users if there no more performance update on 7. And 5 more years is fairly enought even for the companies to move on to Win8 or 9.

As for me Windows 8 is a ***t and I cant cope with the new metro desing in PC even i had Windows Phones (I love them much better than any Android or iPhones).

And if my informations are correct windows 9 will be coming in 2015 Q2 so I can go on with win 7 till then. Quote

09-07-2014, 06:32:58

Damien c
Been running Windows 8.1 for quite a while now and I am perfectly happy with it, now I that I have gotten to know how to do most things.

Went back to Windows 7 the other week but within hours I was back on Windows 8.1Quote

09-07-2014, 06:42:56

Dicehunter
For anyone complaining about Windows 8.1, it's a simple 2 minute job of getting a program like startisback+ and there we go, No more metro screen, Start menu is back and everything looks like the old windows 7 again.

My windows 8.1 install looks exactly like my Windows 7 install in every way possible after applying the custom skin exactly how I did with windows 7 but games and programs run better with Windows 8.1 -

http://i.imgur.com/DUqaZl2.jpgQuote

09-07-2014, 06:48:28

WYP
Vicehunter what happened? Somebody changed your name bud?Quote

09-07-2014, 07:01:39

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by Watsyerproblem View Post
Vicehunter what happened? Somebody changed your name bud?
Yeah the gov was nice enough to change it back for me

I think the whole "Vicehunter" was just a bit of a laugh Quote

09-07-2014, 07:26:50

Asen
You have to give Windows 8 a chance. I'm running two PCs on windwos 8.1 and I can say that the older your PC is, the better it will run. I upgrade somewhere around 7-8 mounths ago and I have to admit that Windows 7's speed is nowhere near 8. Before mu modem booted something like 1 minute before my PC, now I have to buy a faster modem =DQuote

09-07-2014, 07:31:20

barnsley
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
For anyone complaining about Windows 8.1, it's a simple 2 minute job of getting a program like startisback+ and there we go, No more metro screen, Start menu is back and everything looks like the old windows 7 again.

My windows 8.1 install looks exactly like my Windows 7 install in every way possible after applying the custom skin exactly how I did with windows 7 but games and programs run better with Windows 8.1 -
Oh so you've changed your opinion of 8 now . You were quite hostile to it beforehand. TBH 90% of people who use it were in the first place but once you've customised it...Quote

09-07-2014, 07:42:04

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by barnsley View Post
Oh so you've changed your opinion of 8 now . You were quite hostile to it beforehand. TBH 90% of people who use it were in the first place but once you've customised it...
Yeah to be honest at first I despised it due to the kindergarten look but I've tweaked and skinned it so much it looks and behaves exactly like Windows 7 now albeit with better performance Quote

09-07-2014, 07:57:56

Stoner81
This stinks of Microshift clutching at anything to get more sales out of W8. W8 has been a flop and they know it and are now forcing people to move to it if they want to get continued support! Windows 9 had better be good otherwise I have no idea what I will do for an OS.

Stoner81.Quote

09-07-2014, 07:59:55

Damien c
I hated Windows 8 but when Windows 8.1 came out I was determined to give it a try and after a week, I had found everything I needed and had the Asus Rog theme installed, so I was happy.

Every now and then I will give Windows 7 a run but I always now find myself going back to Windows 8.1Quote

09-07-2014, 08:20:40

SeekaX
I am inclined to fight you all when it comes to windows 8.1, but we had that discussion before more than once.
Win8 offers nothing Win7 doesn't, Win7 supports more games and programs, unless Win7 turns into a huge security breach i won't switch.
touchscreens and easy access. tablets, smartphones, mouse and keyboard ftw.Quote

09-07-2014, 08:28:43

barnsley
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
I am inclined to fight you all when it comes to windows 8.1, but we had that discussion before more than once.
Win8 offers nothing Win7 doesn't, Win7 supports more games and programs, unless Win7 turns into a huge security breach i won't switch.
touchscreens and easy access. tablets, smartphones, mouse and keyboard ftw.
I don't like touch screens either.

I'd be suprised if anyone here is actually running windows 8.1 that isn't exactly like 7.Quote

09-07-2014, 08:31:53

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
I am inclined to fight you all when it comes to windows 8.1, but we had that discussion before more than once.
Win8 offers nothing Win7 doesn't, Win7 supports more games and programs, unless Win7 turns into a huge security breach i won't switch.
touchscreens and easy access. tablets, smartphones, mouse and keyboard ftw.
Win 8.1 has better performance for games, That part cannot be argued against no matter how you decide to spin it *Not you but anyone*

And as has been said MANY times before, If you know how to skin and tweak you can get it to look and feel exactly like W7.

My Win 8.1 install looks exactly like my Win 7 install, No metro interface, no touch screens, just a normal Windows.Quote

09-07-2014, 08:36:51

barnsley
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Win 8.1 has better performance for games, That part cannot be argued against no matter how you decide to spin it *Not you but anyone*
Still some issues with older games though. I'm pretty sure COD4 and ARMA 2 don't like it (think they've fixed arma though).Quote

09-07-2014, 08:51:12

SeekaX
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Win 8.1 has better performance for games, That part cannot be argued against no matter how you decide to spin it *Not you but anyone*

And as has been said MANY times before, If you know how to skin and tweak you can get it to look and feel exactly like W7.

My Win 8.1 install looks exactly like my Win 7 install, No metro interface, no touch screens, just a normal Windows.
CoD4 doesn't work = i am not going to use that OS. Not sure if Quake 3 works either.
I get my 125fps solid in the games i play, i couldn't care less about a 2% increase.
What is the point of making Win8 look like Win7 if i can just have Win7 instead.Quote

09-07-2014, 09:00:01

barnsley
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
CoD4 doesn't work = i am not going to use that OS. Not sure if Quake 3 works either.
I get my 125fps solid in the games i play, i couldn't care less about a 2% increase.
What is the point of making Win8 look like Win7 if i can just have Win7 instead.
There are ways to get 4 to work on Windows 8 but it involves compatibility stuff it seems.Quote

09-07-2014, 09:07:27

cooperman
Sounds like microshaft going back on there word to me DX12 i am pretty sure is classed as a performance update and thay did say it was going to be avalable in w7.Quote

09-07-2014, 09:12:33

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
CoD4 doesn't work = i am not going to use that OS. Not sure if Quake 3 works either.
I get my 125fps solid in the games i play, i couldn't care less about a 2% increase.
What is the point of making Win8 look like Win7 if i can just have Win7 instead.
You have to look at the bigger picture and not just 2+ games that you can't get to work which infact do work with some tweaks.

Windows 8 is better for higher resolutions, Fact.

There was an extensive benchmarking session done on another forum with resolutions of up to 4K and the frame times were all faster on W8.1 vs W7 i.e lag and input lag which I know you of all people hate lag

Any performance gain is welcome and it will only get better as time goes on.Quote

09-07-2014, 09:18:54

SeekaX
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
You have to look at the bigger picture and not just 2+ games that you can't get to work.

Windows 8 is better for higher resolutions, Fact.

There was an extensive benchmarking session done on another forum with resolutions of up to 4K and the frame times were all faster on W8.1 vs W7 i.e lag and input lag which I know you of all people hate lag

Any performance gain is welcome and it will only get better as time goes on.
CoD4 and Quake 3 are the games i play every day for years already, i wouldn't drop them for a performance increase at a resolution which in my opinion is completely pointless at the moment anyways.
I need a reliable OS, i can't be bothered to deal with a half arsed OS that only excels at very modern things.
Win7 is a well rounded OS while Win8 has rough edges everywhere, it's the same reason why i stick to Intel and nVidia (i think i just opened the pandora's box), i like well rounded packages which i can rely on in every situation.
Other than that i don't appreciate the direction in which Windows is going, i want tablets/smartphones and PCs to stay separated.Quote

09-07-2014, 09:24:29

barnsley
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
Win7 is a well rounded OS while Win8 has rough edges everywhere, it's the same reason why i stick to Intel and nVidia (i think i just opened the pandora's box), i like well rounded packages which i can rely on in every situation.
Other than that i don't appreciate the direction in which Windows is going, i want tablets/smartphones and PCs to stay separated.
I'll ignore that comment

Looks like 9 will be more up your street. It seems that it'll detect what device it is and act accordingly. That said I hope linux takes off for gaming.Quote

09-07-2014, 09:30:12

Damien c
COD 4 works fine for me other than not being able to play on some PB servers due to it now being missing, from the PBSetup.exe file and I cannot be bothered to go searching for the files to fix it.

Not tried Quake 3 though so cannot comment on that.

My Windows 8.1 install though is not using any of the Startisback type app's so I have the Metro interface there if I choose to use it, but I very very rarely even touch that since most of the times everything is on the desktop, as I don't mind having icons everywhere.

If I wanted to get rid of the icons then I would probably get a app like Rocketdock or what ever it's called, that Dicehunter is using.Quote

09-07-2014, 09:31:15

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
CoD4 and Quake 3 are the games i play every day for years already, i wouldn't drop them for a performance increase at a resolution which in my opinion is completely pointless at the moment anyways.
I need a reliable OS, i can't be bothered to deal with a half arsed OS that only excels at very modern things.
Win7 is a well rounded OS while Win8 has rough edges everywhere, it's the same reason why i stick to Intel and nVidia (i think i just opened the pandora's box), i like well rounded packages which i can rely on in every situation.
Other than that i don't appreciate the direction in which Windows is going, i want tablets/smartphones and PCs to stay separated.
Again you have to look at the bigger picture, Yes you like to play the ancient games and that's fine but newer versions of windows bring with them performance improvements and if the community is vocal enough then MS change certain things so the customer will buy them.

And something which has been stated MANY times, The touch screen feature of Windows is also built into Windows 7 not just windows 8, Separate from Metro.

Also apart from the very first time I installed W8, I have never seen the metro/touch interface again, At all.Quote

09-07-2014, 10:03:50

SeekaX
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Originally Posted by Damien c View Post
COD 4 works fine for me other than not being able to play on some PB servers due to it now being missing, from the PBSetup.exe file and I cannot be bothered to go searching for the files to fix it.

Not tried Quake 3 though so cannot comment on that.

My Windows 8.1 install though is not using any of the Startisback type app's so I have the Metro interface there if I choose to use it, but I very very rarely even touch that since most of the times everything is on the desktop, as I don't mind having icons everywhere.
Also Win7 doesn't encourage you to use touchscreens, win8 does.

If I wanted to get rid of the icons then I would probably get a app like Rocketdock or what ever it's called, that Dicehunter is using.
http://eu.cybergamer.com/files/6409/

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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Again you have to look at the bigger picture, Yes you like to play the ancient games and that's fine but newer versions of windows bring with them performance improvements and if the community is vocal enough then MS change certain things so the customer will buy them.

And something which has been stated MANY times, The touch screen feature of Windows is also built into Windows 7 not just windows 8, Separate from Metro.

Also apart from the very first time I installed W8, I have never seen the metro/touch interface again, At all.
The bigger picture doesn't do anything for me. I don't benefit from the knowledge that my OS performs better at 4k. Microsoft won't change because the demand for compatibility for those games isn't high enough.
To me Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with a bunch of added problems and Microsoft's first real try to merge tablets and PCs. 4k benchmark results don't change anything about that.

Give me a proper reason to uninstall my perfectly working Windows 7 and install Windows 8, do a whole lot of tweaking etc. Surely it can't just be just irrelevant benchmarks?Quote

09-07-2014, 10:20:46

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
http://eu.cybergamer.com/files/6409/



The bigger picture doesn't do anything for me. I don't benefit from the knowledge that my OS performs better at 4k. Microsoft won't change because the demand for compatibility for those games isn't high enough.
To me Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with a bunch of added problems and Microsoft's first real try to merge tablets and PCs. 4k benchmark results don't change anything about that.

Give me a proper reason to uninstall my perfectly working Windows 7 and install Windows 8, do a whole lot of tweaking etc. Surely it can't just be just irrelevant benchmarks?

I think something is getting lost in translation here, I'll space out the words a bit more for you

Windows 8.1 is better for the high resolution stuff, Not just benchmarks but actual gameplay, Frame times, Input lag etc... ergo I went over to it as I have a 4K panel, If I didn't have a 4K panel I would of stayed with W7.

I have never said "You must go to W8.1" Just saying higher res than 1600p is better with W8.Quote

09-07-2014, 10:31:12

SeekaX
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
I think something is getting lost in translation here, I'll space out the words a bit more for you

Windows 8.1 is better for the high resolution stuff, Not just benchmarks but actual gameplay, Frame times, Input lag etc... ergo I went over to it as I have a 4K panel, If I didn't have a 4K panel I would of stayed with W7.

I have never said "You must go to W8.1" Just saying high res is better with W8.
So you basically just dropped to win8.1 is only better if you want to play games at 4k res. Smooth move.
That is only literally a big picture though, most people don't use 4k and won't for a long time.Quote

09-07-2014, 10:37:23

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
So you basically just dropped to win8.1 is only better if you want to play games at 4k res. Smooth move.
That is only literally a big picture though, most people don't use 4k and won't for a long time.
Dude it doesn't matter what I say, As per usual you will react to it in an aggressive manner fishing for aggro.Quote

09-07-2014, 10:43:17

SeekaX
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Dude it doesn't matter what I say, As per usual you will react to it in an aggressive manner.
How is that even aggressive.
Opposing your opinion != aggressive.Quote

09-07-2014, 10:44:32

DisturbedJim83
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Win 8.1 has better performance for games, That part cannot be argued against no matter how you decide to spin it *Not you but anyone*

And as has been said MANY times before, If you know how to skin and tweak you can get it to look and feel exactly like W7.

My Win 8.1 install looks exactly like my Win 7 install, No metro interface, no touch screens, just a normal Windows.
I think the main point of those against Windows 8(myself included) is why should i have to waste my time "tweaking and skinning" because some idiot a MS was under the delusion that all PC users have a touchscreen monitor or want their PC to work like a tablet.

Yes Windows 7 have support for Touchscreen, however its not invasive or obnoxious like it is in 8 come to think of it unless you know where to look you'd never know it was there since its disabled by default.

I use 7 Ultimate on my PC and its easy to use, my dads laptop however uses 8 and both He and I have on numerous occasions found ourselves so enraged we almost shot it through a Window because in its default state basic functions like Control Panel are a pain in the butt to find in most cases requiring going through that blasted metro interface unlike 7,just thinking about that blighted O.S makes my blood boil.Quote

09-07-2014, 10:47:16

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
How is that even aggressive.
Opposing your opinion != aggressive.
It's just the way you word things seems very aggressive, Others not just me have commented on it in the past when you got very offensive when someone mentioned refresh rates lolQuote

09-07-2014, 10:52:06

SeekaX
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
It's just the way you word things seems very aggressive, Others not just me have commented on it in the past when you got very offensive when someone mentioned refresh rates lol
Offensive would mean i insult people. I'd never insult anyone on this forum. I might tackle opposing opinions rather aggressively, but that's just how a discussion works. If you present your arguments weakly you can't expect people to respect them.Quote

09-07-2014, 11:04:13

SieB
Good god people still talking the same old BS about Win 8 even though you have explained to them many times it isn't as bad as people make out.

Also i'm pretty sure i've said many times Quake 3 runs on Win 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1p...ature=youtu.beQuote

09-07-2014, 11:08:30

barnsley
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Originally Posted by DisturbedJim83 View Post
I think the main point of those against Windows 8(myself included) is why should i have to waste my time "tweaking and skinning" because some idiot a MS was under the delusion that all PC users have a touchscreen monitor or want their PC to work like a tablet.


I use 7 Ultimate on my PC and its easy to use, my dads laptop however uses 8 and both He and I have on numerous occasions found ourselves so enraged we almost shot it through a Window because in its default state basic functions like Control Panel are a pain in the butt to find in most cases requiring going through that blasted metro interface unlike 7,just thinking about that blighted O.S makes my blood boil.
I understand the want to not tweak (hence why I don't like android) however its more that people completely bitch about 8.1 because it was crap when it was 8.

A few tweaks is fine. Would I change directly from 7 to 8? no. But that doesn't mean I'd get it for a new rig. Infact thats what I'm doing :').


9 needs to hurry up, as its the same sh** with the same people each time. I thought we'd all remember each others view by now :P.Quote

09-07-2014, 11:10:35

SeekaX
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Originally Posted by SieB View Post
Good god people still talking the same old BS about Win 8 even though you have explained to them many times it isn't as bad as people make out.

Also i'm pretty sure i've said many times Quake 3 runs on Win 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1p...ature=youtu.be
I was assuming Quake 3 would run like crap because CoD4 does.
It's not as bad as it used to be, but changing to Win8 if you have Win7 is just pointless. Extra work for pretty much no pay off.Quote

09-07-2014, 11:16:56

SieB
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
I was assuming Quake 3 would run like crap because CoD4 does.
It's not as bad as it used to be, but changing to Win8 if you have Win7 is just pointless. Extra work for pretty much no pay off.
That is the problem, people "assume" yet 99% of their assumptions about windows 8 aren't true CoD 4 runs ok as well, all this talk of things not working on windows 8 is mainly BS, there are the odd one or two things but nothing that there isn't a modern alternative to.
For games, if you really were that dedicated to an old game that didn't work you could always make a Window XP or Windows 7 VM and run them inside of that.

There is no point in moving from 7 to 8 unless you need to though.
I got a free key for it when it was released so it didn't cost me anything, but I wouldn't go back to windows 7 now I am on 8.
But I wouldn't not move to Windows 8 if you have the chance to, if you are happy with 7 you might as well stay with it though.Quote

09-07-2014, 11:51:59

carlosandr1
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Originally Posted by Watsyerproblem View Post
Microsoft has dated when Windows 7 support will end, with mainstream support ending in just over 6 months.

http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/artic...181446836l.jpg

Read more here
does this effect Windows 7 ultimate?Quote

09-07-2014, 12:33:37

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
Offensive would mean i insult people. I'd never insult anyone on this forum. I might tackle opposing opinions rather aggressively, but that's just how a discussion works. If you present your arguments weakly you can't expect people to respect them.
But I didn't present the facts weakly, They are facts, End of.
Note how I didn't use the word "Arguments" like you did, Again, Aggressive. You just need to lighten up a bit as I have said before people have commented on your attitude before and there's simply no need for it unless it is down to the language barrier which I hope it is.Quote

09-07-2014, 12:40:12

barnsley
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
But I didn't present the facts weakly, They are facts, End of.
Note how I didn't use the word "Arguments" like you did, Again, Aggressive. You just need to lighten up a bit as I have said before people have commented on your attitude before and there's simply no need for it.
Its hardly that bad. Honestly some people just sound aggressive on the internet. Different typing styles innit.Quote

09-07-2014, 12:46:49

Cru
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Note how I didn't use the word "Arguments" like you did, Again, Aggressive.
you can't be seriousQuote

09-07-2014, 12:50:43

MadShadow
I don't really think that SeekaX means to be aggressive. Its just his writing style, which is straight to the point and decisive. If he meant aggression, he would not defend himself when you, Dice, called him aggressive.

Edit: Hey, I just realized that I surpassed 1000 posts OC3D Elite Ftw Quote

09-07-2014, 12:55:43

SeekaX
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
But I didn't present the facts weakly, They are facts, End of.
Note how I didn't use the word "Arguments" like you did, Again, Aggressive. You just need to lighten up a bit as I have said before people have commented on your attitude before and there's simply no need for it unless it is down to the language barrier which I hope it is.
Arguments indicate aggression? Stating a fact in a discussion is just another term for argument. I am just stating facts as well, the difference is that i am not looking for a compromise but to convince the opposing side of my opinion.
As for the language barrier, the word argument has two definitions and only one of them indicates aggression.

http://i.imgur.com/aq75awp.png

Aggression would mean that i attacked you as a person, but i never did that.Quote

09-07-2014, 12:58:36

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by Cru View Post
you can't be serious
Have you not seen the rest of his posts ? One of the most aggressive people I've seen on a forum.

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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post
Arguments indicate aggression? Stating a fact in a discussion is just another term for argument. I am just stating facts as well, the difference is that i am not looking for a compromise but to convince the opposing side of my opinion.
As for the language barrier, the word argument has two definitions and only one of them indicates aggression.
Just let it go, Calm down, Breath and you will be ok Quote

09-07-2014, 13:02:43

Cru
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Have you not seen the rest of his posts ? One of the most aggressive people I've seen on a forum.
i do not share that opinion at all

am i aggressive as well now?Quote

09-07-2014, 13:06:02

barnsley
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Have you not seen the rest of his posts ? One of the most aggressive people I've seen on a forum.
Going to have to disagree with you there. Him and me don't always see eye (lol amd) to eye but that doesn't make him aggressive in my eyes. He's just a bit more blunt than most of us, no biggie :P.Quote

09-07-2014, 13:10:11

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by Cru View Post
i do not share that opinion at all

am i aggressive as well now?
I never so much as mentioned you Cru

And it has nothing to do with opinion, again I have never said anything about someone else' opinion so please don't put words in my mouth.Quote

09-07-2014, 13:11:15

MadShadow
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
I never so much as mentioned you Cru
I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm from Cru.Quote

09-07-2014, 13:12:24

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by MaddenShadow View Post
I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm from Cru.
I have a hard time understanding German humour having grown up in England

Plus Germans aren't know for humour Quote

09-07-2014, 13:16:02

MadShadow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
I have a hard time understanding German humour having grown up in England

Plus Germans aren't know for humour
I know what thats like. Same goes for Dutch people Im Dutch by the way, so I can say that Quote

09-07-2014, 13:17:41

WYP
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Note how I didn't use the word "Arguments" like you did, Again, Aggressive. .
He isn't intending to sound aggressive mate, your just reading it the wrong way. That kinda thing just happens on the internet, or ant written content TBH.

The amount of times I have reread old comments of mine and though i was overly harsh, or sounded really sarcastic. It happens.Quote

09-07-2014, 13:17:46

Dicehunter
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Originally Posted by MaddenShadow View Post
I know what thats like. Same goes for Dutch people Im Dutch by the way, so I can say that
I'm from Berlin so I can too

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Originally Posted by Watsyerproblem View Post
He isn't intending to sound aggressive mate, your just reading it the wrong way. That kinda thing just happens on the internet, or ant written content TBH.

The amount of times I have reread old comments of mine and though i was overly harsh, or sounded really sarcastic. It happens.
I always read things on forums in a neutral manner but it's hard to when certain comments are aggressive, As I said before other people have commented on it before not just me.Quote

09-07-2014, 13:18:28

MadShadow
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Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
I'm from Berlin so I can too
Yeah, I knew that. Well not the Berlin part, but I knew that you are German Quote

09-07-2014, 13:20:11

Dicehunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaddenShadow View Post
Yeah, I knew that. Well not the Berlin part, but I knew that you are German
Well half irish half german, Dads from the republic and moms from berlin, I do things in a precise way, Tomorrow lol Quote

09-07-2014, 13:22:01

barnsley
To be totally honest I can see what is going here and not understanding humour isn't the issue.

Then again I don't think we need a huge multi page argument about how different tones sound aggressive to various people.
If seekaX says he isn't being aggressive but to whoever it is it sounds aggressive I'd take it as a misconception of tone and would remember this in the future. Mistakes happen.
/end of discussion.

Back on topic I actually use metro a little on my touch screen laptop and its crap. The only really nice thing about 8 and touchscreens imo is how accurate it is. Its easily on par with iOS/Android.Quote

09-07-2014, 13:22:52

MadShadow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Well half irish half german, Dads from the republic and moms from berlin, I do things in a precise way, Tomorrow lol
I guess I'm in a similar situation, as my dads Scottish, and my moms Dutch. Anyways, this thread is meant to be about Windows :PQuote

09-07-2014, 13:26:17

SeekaX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
Have you not seen the rest of his posts ? One of the most aggressive people I've seen on a forum.

Just let it go, Calm down, Breath and you will be ok
I've been calm all the way. All i ever do is respond to your arguments, at the moment you are far more aggressive than i've ever been because instead of responding to my arguments you try to make me look like that angry basement dweller which gets mad over internet arguments.
There are multiple people in this thread already which backed that i've shown no aggression towards you, unless you can actually quote a post in which i've shown aggression i think this whole farce should end.

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnsley View Post
actually use metro a little on my touch screen laptop and its crap. The only really nice thing about 8 and touchscreens imo is how accurate it is. Its easily on par with iOS/Android.
Isn't that based on the accuracy of the screen rather than the OS?Quote

09-07-2014, 13:31:39

Dicehunter
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaddenShadow View Post
I guess I'm in a similar situation, as my dads Scottish, and my moms Dutch. Anyways, this thread is meant to be about Windows :P
It's generally the germanic people that are very cold and fighty where as the scotts and irish are happy and fighty lol Quote

09-07-2014, 13:40:11

barnsley
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Originally Posted by SeekaX View Post

Isn't that based on the accuracy of the screen rather than the OS?
Well it is a lenovo

slight brand loyalty aside, windows 7's touchscreen features are very basic and you can't do nearly as much. my main comparison is when I was tasked to downgrade a touchscreen hp running windows 8 pro to windows 7. Windows 7 lacks decent multi touch support and is very clunky without some modifications.Quote

09-07-2014, 13:40:37

MadShadow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
It's generally the germanic people that are very cold and fighty where as the scotts and irish are happy and fighty lol
Sounds about right Quote

09-07-2014, 14:04:41

Feronix
Guys, back on topic. Now.Quote

09-07-2014, 15:10:29

Mysterae
I'm going to have to partially agree with the argumentative sod that is SeekaX . My main rig is Windows 7 and will be for as long as possible. Everything runs nice, it's tuned using all the performance guides, it's stable with my overclock, and it's regularly imaged so I can get back to a known state should I have cause to. I know where everything is and how things work. It's my kinda normal.

However, for the past few weeks I've been using Windows 8.1 on my Surface Pro 3 and Windows 8.1 is fook'n magic. Windows 8.1 was made for this tablet/laptop, it's just so natural to use. If I can find a windows explorer app that I like (and other Office programs would use as default) for it I doubt I'd ever "go behind" the Metro curtain. Seriously. I have no need to tune, overclock, or play games on it.

This'll make you laugh - I connected the Surface up to my main monitor by display port to see what Windows 8.1 was like on a big screen. I actually caught myself trying to swipe and select stuff by touching the monitor! Using a mouse for Windows 8 is like using a fork in a fancy Chinese restaurant, know what I mean?Quote

09-07-2014, 15:18:09

barnsley
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysterae View Post

However, for the past few weeks I've been using Windows 8.1 on my Surface Pro 3 and Windows 8.1 is fook'n magic. Windows 8.1 was made for this tablet/laptop, it's just so natural to use. If I can find a windows explorer app that I like (and other Office programs would use as default) for it I doubt I'd ever "go behind" the Metro curtain. Seriously. I have no need to tune, overclock, or play games on it.
Man a tablet designed around an operating system is actually very good with said OS.
Whodathunkit Quote

09-07-2014, 15:21:19

vorticalbox
"so Microsoft have 5 years to make an OS to please the current Windows 7 fanbase. "

MS haven't got to make anything to please anyone, when 7 goes they will have to upgrade. regardless if they like it or not there is no where else for them to go.

unless wine magically gets fully working with everything.

rolling along in my epic train of thought...

How long to do you reckon it will take till M$ do a yearly subscription based Windows and one expensive long term support for business?Quote

09-07-2014, 15:39:36

Jinxxter
well, let's just wait and have a cup of tea or two...considering how long it took ms to stop xp-support i wouldn't really be concerned right now...
from an industrial pointiert view most enterprises have just recently upgraded to windows 7 so it's likely they won't upgrade in the next couple of years...Quote

09-07-2014, 16:41:26

Asen
I do not agree at all that Windows 8 is broken, actually I would say that it is the other way around. I have had serious problems with Windows 7, there is a reason that I passed to 8. Like you I didn't saw why I should even bother using Windows 8, but then that happened! I have two accounts; one for me and one for my little brother, mine is the administrator account and I had a password. It happened that one night is was working and the next morning apparently the file that contained my password was corrupted. Though luck. So I decided to give a chance to Windows 8.1 and all of this thanks to this strange problem that Windows 7 gave me. I must say that I'm pretty happy with it and I use the stock skin. It feels comfortable, maybe because it in some way reminds me of Android, not how it looks, but how it works.Quote

09-07-2014, 16:44:01

barnsley
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asen View Post
I do not agree at all that Windows 8 is broken, actually I would say that it is the other way around. I have had serious problems with Windows 7, there is a reason that I passed to 8. Like you I didn't saw why I should even bother using Windows 8, but then that happened! I have two accounts; one for me and one for my little brother, mine is the administrator account and I had a password. It happened that one night is was working and the next morning apparently the file that contained my password was corrupted. Though luck. So I decided to give a chance to Windows 8.1 and all of this thanks to this strange problem that Windows 7 gave me. I must say that I'm pretty happy with it and I use the stock skin. It feels comfortable, maybe because it in some way reminds me of Android, not how it looks, but how it works.
errr...
There is a fix for that. I've done it a few times for customers. You just have to redo a couple of registry keys in safe mode.Quote

09-07-2014, 17:12:10

Wraith
Well after reading the minor dispute over the last few pages, I decided it was time "THE CAN" came out! Don't make me open it!
http://i.imgur.com/QfhukNP.jpgQuote

09-07-2014, 17:17:42

MadShadow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wraithguard View Post
Well after reading the minor dispute over the last few pages, I decided it was time "THE CAN" came out! Don't make me open it!
http://i.imgur.com/nTQKL5D.jpg
Who needs a banhammer when you have a can of whoopass? Quote

09-07-2014, 17:19:43

Wraith
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaddenShadow View Post
Who needs a banhammer when you have a can of whoopass?
The old trusty ban hammer, like our old works plank cannon.Quote
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