Why Coffee Lake cannot work on Z270

Then why use LGA 1151 to begin with?

Why Coffee Lake cannot not work on Z270

Then why use LGA 1151 to begin with? 

Now, this is where we move away from fact and into the realms of rumour. Intel has never gone on record to say why they have used LGA 1151 or what their future plans are, though there have been a few leaks and a lot of online chatter about Intel's future plans. 

What many people are saying is that Coffee Lake is a rushed launch, with Intel accelerating their release plans by a quarter of a year to deliver better competition for AMD's high-end Ryzen CPU lineup. This is allegedly why Intel utilised their existing LGA 1151 socket, using a baseline that already exists and modifying it to support CPUs with higher core/thread counts. 

This also goes some of the way to explain why Z370 is so similar to Z270 in terms of platform/motherboard features and why it is releasing less than a year after Kaby Lake, though it is unlikely that we will ever receive confirmation about this one way or another.   

In the rumour mill, there are countless stories about what is coming next for Intel, be it the promise of a newer Z390 chipset, 8-core Coffee Lake CPUs or even another new socket. So far nothing has been confirmed and it is unlikely that anything new will be coming from Intel until at least the second half of 2018, aside from the release of lower-end 300-series chipsets and CPUs. 

Coffee Lake represents a huge change from Intel's older desktop CPUs, though at the same time they are remarkably similar. This will be the 3rd CPU generation that uses Intel's Skylake CPU architecture, though it is also the first time that Intel has brought six-core CPUs onto a mainstream platform. 

Intel's Coffee Lake series of CPU will release on October 5th, so expect more Coffee related content on OC3D soon. Right now we have several Z370 motherboard previews for you to look at in the meantime, which includes a quick look at ASUS's MITX Z370-I.

 
You can join the discussion on why Intel's Coffee Lake CPU's cannot work on Z270 motherboards on the OC3D Forums

 

 

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02-10-2017, 15:35:05

cj09bruno
they are reserved pins aren't they, meaning they do nothing on z270 boards, that might mean that the cpu would have less max power delivery, but it wouldn't make it not work, and at least kaby lake cpus should work on the new z370 boards with just some bios compatibilityQuote

02-10-2017, 15:38:40

TheF34RChannel
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Originally Posted by cj09bruno View Post
they are reserved pins aren't they, meaning they do nothing on z270 boards, that might mean that the cpu would have less max power delivery, but it wouldn't make it not work, and at least kaby lake cpus should work on the new z370 boards with just some bios compatibility
I presume that you are not an engineer? Because it's not that black and white Quote

02-10-2017, 15:46:01

Gothmoth
well i am an engineer if that helps.

but a mechanical engineer.

i firmly believe that 20% is technical reasons and 80% is financial reason behind the decision to create an uncompatible CPU from kaby lake (aka coffee lake).

i also firmly believe that with a bit effort 8 core cpus could run on Z270 chipsets.


intel is one of the dirtiest tech companies you can run into. they proved that over and over.
of course they will make some changes so it looks like it was necessary. i would do the same.

but nobody can tell us if they could not have made the changes to the CPU instead of the socket.
coffee lake is not draining more watt then kaby lake.

and coffee lake was not build in one year.
what about building chipsets and sockets that are a bit more futureproof?

planned obsolescence, that´s what this is called.

intel does not even try to be futureproof!
because doing it the way they do.. it even EARNS them MORE money.



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According to Intel, LGA1151 socket on Z370 motherboards had to be modified for better power delivery for 8th Gen Core CPUs. The backward and forward compatibility questions could’ve all been avoided if Intel added at least one more physical pin or simply name the new socket as LGA1151v2. That did not happen. The electrical pin layout confirms that Coffelake has some RSVD (reserved) LGA1151 pins now occupied by VSS and VCC pins.
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02-10-2017, 16:39:45

TheF34RChannel
Every company is dirty, the world is dirty, most individuals are dirty. The way of the world. Like I said in the other thread, the end result would've been the same (new boards), it's the way it is, one can either accept or reject that.Quote

03-10-2017, 02:09:29

Korreborg
But I still don't think it is Intel that is the main bad guy. The MB manufacturers win more on this.

And the hole TIM thing is a win for the cooler manufacturers. Yes I am wearing my tinfoil hat Quote
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